The program now looks like this:
09:55 Arrival of Silja Serenade
11:00 Get to know each other
12:00 Experiences from Sweden
13:00 Lunch
14:00 Experiences from Finland
15:00 Organization of Protu Finland
16:30 Coffee break; Philosophical discussion by Karim
17:00 Brainstorming in small groups: Programme for camps
18:30 Sauna 30 minutes one sex, 30 minutes mixed, 30 minutes other sex (we can decide otherwise if we want)
20:00 Off to restaurant
20:30 Table will be reserved at this time
Sunday
09:00 Meet up at the hotel, walk to the Protu café
09:15 Breakfast at the Protu café, discuss future co-operation
If thet don't get staff at the Protu Café, we'll have to go somewhere else for breakfast at 10:00 when all cafés serving breakfast I checked open.
Free time in Helsinki
14:00 Four Swedes fly home
17:55 The rest of the Swedes fly home
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Friday, September 25, 2009
Dilemma: Restaurant or Sauna first?
Hello again!
While talking with Claes he thought that we would arrive too late to the restaurant in the first version of the programme.
We would have two other options.
1) Go to the restaurant after 19:15 and then come back for sauna. The problem here is that time is wasted by travelling from the conference venue to the restaurant and back.
2) Move "Future co-operation" to be discussed at breakfast on Sunday morning. Go to sauna 18:30->20:30 and then go to the restaurant. This would require some small snack during the sauna.
What do you think?
While talking with Claes he thought that we would arrive too late to the restaurant in the first version of the programme.
We would have two other options.
1) Go to the restaurant after 19:15 and then come back for sauna. The problem here is that time is wasted by travelling from the conference venue to the restaurant and back.
2) Move "Future co-operation" to be discussed at breakfast on Sunday morning. Go to sauna 18:30->20:30 and then go to the restaurant. This would require some small snack during the sauna.
What do you think?
Programme draft
This is the first draft for the programme, a result from a phone conversation between me and Karim.
Please comment!
Saturday October 3
09:55 Arrival of Silja Serenade
11:00 Get to know each other
12:00 Experiences from Sweden
13:00 Lunch
14:00 Experiences from Finland
15:00 Organization of Protu Finland
16:30 Coffee break; Philosophical discussion by Karim
17:00 Brainstorming in small groups: Programme for camps
18:30 Future co-operation
19:15 Sauna
21:15 Off to hotel and thereafter restaurant
Sunday October 4
09:00 Get togerher in city center for breakfast
Thereafter free time; sightseeing, visit the Protu Café etc.
Please comment!
Saturday October 3
09:55 Arrival of Silja Serenade
11:00 Get to know each other
12:00 Experiences from Sweden
13:00 Lunch
14:00 Experiences from Finland
15:00 Organization of Protu Finland
16:30 Coffee break; Philosophical discussion by Karim
17:00 Brainstorming in small groups: Programme for camps
18:30 Future co-operation
19:15 Sauna
21:15 Off to hotel and thereafter restaurant
Sunday October 4
09:00 Get togerher in city center for breakfast
Thereafter free time; sightseeing, visit the Protu Café etc.
Monday, August 17, 2009
Who?
Alex, while we are yet not that many on the blog, lets also discuss the question Who? should be invited to rhe conference. Initially I think we talked about the borad members of Protu and Protus, and maybe not even everyone of these either. However, I already see that some of the leaders ("campingbilarna" :-) could be interested and valuable to bring on. OR are you thinking that any member/participant/leader could be invited? What is your opinion there?
Claes
Claes
Where? Country and environment
In earlier talks about the conference there has been a very flexible attitude about where we'll meet. A decision will have to be made soon though.
First, Finland or Sweden? I guess a trip abroad is always more tempting. Anna, the president of Protu from Finland has suggested that the lesser amount of people would travel as it would be less burdensome for the environment. Claes, the CEO of the foundation from Sweden has suggested that the event would this year take place in Finland. Next year we could meet in Sweden on Ekskäret, the island of the foundation when the construction is ready.
There have also been suggestions to meet half-way on the Åland Islands. This idea is nice and neutral but getting there might be burdensome. The ferries from Helsinki and Stockholm respectively stop in Mariehamn around 4am which for me at least means a tiresome following day due to interruption in a good night's sleep. Also, my preliminary investigation of campsites has found no campsites but only holiday villages.
The most amusing suggestion so far has been to have the event onboard a ferry between the two countries. This raises questions as well: How would we deal with the age limits the shipping companies impose on weekends? Would one delegation have to take two cruises?
Secondly, city or countryside? In city we have a wider range of extra activities available but lack the camp atmosphere. In Helsinki we could get a youth centre for free as the venue. Sauna is also available for rent in Helsinki, often at a hefty price though. A city conference would also better allow for partial participation in case of people in the hosting city have other activities or duties during the weekend.
In the countryside there are many nice campsites which Protu often gets for a subsidized price. Sauna-wise I would suggest Märkiö as the sauna is heated by wood and is right at the lake. Pictures and information in Finnish available at: http://www.nurmijarvi.fi/nuoret/fi_FI/markionleirikeskus/
The downside of Märkiö however, as with many other campsites, is the lack of public transportation. I also have no idea whether Märkiö is available. Metsäpirtti or Kesärinne would have better public transportation but electric saunas. Räyskälä and Woiman Talo are further away, the former has a wooden sauna and the latter an "intelligent" electric sauna. You may wonder why I'm so obsessed with the sauna. It's because it's an important part of Finnish culture and because the Swedes have wished for a sauna I want to make that experience as real as possible.
What do you think?
First, Finland or Sweden? I guess a trip abroad is always more tempting. Anna, the president of Protu from Finland has suggested that the lesser amount of people would travel as it would be less burdensome for the environment. Claes, the CEO of the foundation from Sweden has suggested that the event would this year take place in Finland. Next year we could meet in Sweden on Ekskäret, the island of the foundation when the construction is ready.
There have also been suggestions to meet half-way on the Åland Islands. This idea is nice and neutral but getting there might be burdensome. The ferries from Helsinki and Stockholm respectively stop in Mariehamn around 4am which for me at least means a tiresome following day due to interruption in a good night's sleep. Also, my preliminary investigation of campsites has found no campsites but only holiday villages.
The most amusing suggestion so far has been to have the event onboard a ferry between the two countries. This raises questions as well: How would we deal with the age limits the shipping companies impose on weekends? Would one delegation have to take two cruises?
Secondly, city or countryside? In city we have a wider range of extra activities available but lack the camp atmosphere. In Helsinki we could get a youth centre for free as the venue. Sauna is also available for rent in Helsinki, often at a hefty price though. A city conference would also better allow for partial participation in case of people in the hosting city have other activities or duties during the weekend.
In the countryside there are many nice campsites which Protu often gets for a subsidized price. Sauna-wise I would suggest Märkiö as the sauna is heated by wood and is right at the lake. Pictures and information in Finnish available at: http://www.nurmijarvi.fi/nuoret/fi_FI/markionleirikeskus/
The downside of Märkiö however, as with many other campsites, is the lack of public transportation. I also have no idea whether Märkiö is available. Metsäpirtti or Kesärinne would have better public transportation but electric saunas. Räyskälä and Woiman Talo are further away, the former has a wooden sauna and the latter an "intelligent" electric sauna. You may wonder why I'm so obsessed with the sauna. It's because it's an important part of Finnish culture and because the Swedes have wished for a sauna I want to make that experience as real as possible.
What do you think?
What? The purpose of the conference and this blog
When starting co-operation between Protu and Protus it was agreed that the two organizations should meet on a regular basis to share experiences and information. This conference will be the first such event of hopefully many to come. Apart from sharing information the conference will aim to let people from both organizations get to know each other and have fun together. The Swedes have also wished to go to a sauna. Please comment if you come up with further aims, it will be appreciated!
This blog was first started out of necessity to spread information to the Finns as our magazine's publishing schedule didn't allow for informing about the conference. No information was available at the time of the publishing of the next issue and the following one will be published after the conference.
Later, I came up with the idea of using this blog as a means of planning the conference. It'll be easier to plan the event, Finns and Swedes together despite the geographical distance. I hope this blog will as well involve and raise interest among people from both sides of the Baltic and so increase participation in the event.
I'll write separate entries on different topics like program, venue and schedule. Feel free to comment if you have ideas on any of them. You can also write in Finnish or Swedish if that's more comfortable to you. I would appreciate separate comments for each topic as it would make things clearer.
This blog was first started out of necessity to spread information to the Finns as our magazine's publishing schedule didn't allow for informing about the conference. No information was available at the time of the publishing of the next issue and the following one will be published after the conference.
Later, I came up with the idea of using this blog as a means of planning the conference. It'll be easier to plan the event, Finns and Swedes together despite the geographical distance. I hope this blog will as well involve and raise interest among people from both sides of the Baltic and so increase participation in the event.
I'll write separate entries on different topics like program, venue and schedule. Feel free to comment if you have ideas on any of them. You can also write in Finnish or Swedish if that's more comfortable to you. I would appreciate separate comments for each topic as it would make things clearer.
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